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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alex Ireland</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-545959</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consumers can “opt out” of receiving telephone books at www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org.  They will contact the publishers and inform them to stop delivering books.  This is a free service for consumers.  www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org is working with state and local governments on ordinances concerning the delivery of unsolicited telephone books.  www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org is not against the telephone books but against the delivery of 4 to 5 pounds of paper on people’s door step 5 to 6 times per year and being told it is our responsibility to recycle something we did not ask for.  If we need a book we will call. Otherwise I “opt out” from receiving it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consumers can “opt out” of receiving telephone books at <a href="http://www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org</a>.  They will contact the publishers and inform them to stop delivering books.  This is a free service for consumers.  <a href="http://www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org</a> is working with state and local governments on ordinances concerning the delivery of unsolicited telephone books.  <a href="http://www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.YellowPagesGoesGreen.org</a> is not against the telephone books but against the delivery of 4 to 5 pounds of paper on people’s door step 5 to 6 times per year and being told it is our responsibility to recycle something we did not ask for.  If we need a book we will call. Otherwise I “opt out” from receiving it.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane K. Danielson</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-544028</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane K. Danielson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about an eco-tax on smoking, junk food, beverages, phone companies and mailing advertisers.  Why?  Because whenever I dogsit Chester, my favorite 90-lb Labradoodle, we go for daily walks along the shore road in my town and I use one of his poop bags to pick up trash.  60% of the trash is always beverage related (coffee cups, slurpees, beer cans, soda bottles, water bottles, straws, juice boxes, etc.), 20% is junkfood related; 10% is junk mail and parts of phone books, and 10% is cigarette butts (which is only 10% due to their small size), and while I don't pick them up -- too many, too gross -- it still baffles me why smokers don't think it's littering to toss their butts on the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about an eco-tax on smoking, junk food, beverages, phone companies and mailing advertisers.  Why?  Because whenever I dogsit Chester, my favorite 90-lb Labradoodle, we go for daily walks along the shore road in my town and I use one of his poop bags to pick up trash.  60% of the trash is always beverage related (coffee cups, slurpees, beer cans, soda bottles, water bottles, straws, juice boxes, etc.), 20% is junkfood related; 10% is junk mail and parts of phone books, and 10% is cigarette butts (which is only 10% due to their small size), and while I don&#8217;t pick them up &#8212; too many, too gross &#8212; it still baffles me why smokers don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s littering to toss their butts on the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: artbrock</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-544027</link>
		<dc:creator>artbrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm happy to set up a web site where people can sign up on an opt-out list and we'd send regular updates to the phone book companies. 

Then when people receive phone books even though they've explicitly opted out, I believe we should cite the company for littering and get them fined.  Who else is allowed to come and dump a pile of unwelcome trash on your doorstep?  The only way to get them to stop doing this is if it costs them cash.  Let's make it do just that.

With proper promotion, I'll bet we could get 10,000 citations per phone book per distribution cycle, at about $100 per littering citation they might start listening to $1,000,000 in fines.

It's good revenue for our municipal governments and good feedback to the companies that won't listen when we tell them not to dump their junk at our businesses and residences.

Who wants to play?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to set up a web site where people can sign up on an opt-out list and we&#8217;d send regular updates to the phone book companies. </p>
<p>Then when people receive phone books even though they&#8217;ve explicitly opted out, I believe we should cite the company for littering and get them fined.  Who else is allowed to come and dump a pile of unwelcome trash on your doorstep?  The only way to get them to stop doing this is if it costs them cash.  Let&#8217;s make it do just that.</p>
<p>With proper promotion, I&#8217;ll bet we could get 10,000 citations per phone book per distribution cycle, at about $100 per littering citation they might start listening to $1,000,000 in fines.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good revenue for our municipal governments and good feedback to the companies that won&#8217;t listen when we tell them not to dump their junk at our businesses and residences.</p>
<p>Who wants to play?</p>
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		<title>By: trsh</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-543993</link>
		<dc:creator>trsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you're looking for an interesting way to recycle phone books, contact a local zoo or parrot rescue - parrots and raptors alike need to be constantly entertained, and phone books alike make GREAT toys for the birds to shred to pieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re looking for an interesting way to recycle phone books, contact a local zoo or parrot rescue - parrots and raptors alike need to be constantly entertained, and phone books alike make GREAT toys for the birds to shred to pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: numlok</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-543800</link>
		<dc:creator>numlok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Tim McMahon,

What is your problem with giving those people who DO have the resources, knowledge, and desire to live without the Yellow Pages all the information they need in order to do so?  Or do you believe residents have a requirement to receive your material regardless of whether they want it or not?

I can think of a lot of catalogs and direct-mail advertisers that "create opportunities for American business to flourish" as well.  Although it would be a shameful waste of resources, maybe if we all sign you up for the ones WE think you'll like, you'll understand the perspective.

As for your perspective on environmentalism:  All of your examples taken to extreme are, well, extreme.  If each of us were to adjust such things moderately (ie. drive less, use public transportation more, keep our homes at reasonable temperatures, turn of unused lights, etc.) the overall and cumulative impact would be greatly beneficial.

Also, regardless of the tree-core base material of the book, what about the energy expended to produce the final product?  Electricity for the grinders, presses, driers and such, then the fuel used to transport them not only from the mill to the printer, but then from there on to the consumer... Who then is likely to just chuck it into the recycle bin.  Can you honestly not see the inefficiency in this?

I'd personally rather see the tree core mulched for agricultural use.

Reducing the reliance on another unnecessary and inefficient resource is just one step along the path most know to be right and necessary.  The fact that you don't see it that way serves to illustrate not only the sort of thinking that got us into this mess, but what sorts of challenges we face in getting out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tim McMahon,</p>
<p>What is your problem with giving those people who DO have the resources, knowledge, and desire to live without the Yellow Pages all the information they need in order to do so?  Or do you believe residents have a requirement to receive your material regardless of whether they want it or not?</p>
<p>I can think of a lot of catalogs and direct-mail advertisers that &#8220;create opportunities for American business to flourish&#8221; as well.  Although it would be a shameful waste of resources, maybe if we all sign you up for the ones WE think you&#8217;ll like, you&#8217;ll understand the perspective.</p>
<p>As for your perspective on environmentalism:  All of your examples taken to extreme are, well, extreme.  If each of us were to adjust such things moderately (ie. drive less, use public transportation more, keep our homes at reasonable temperatures, turn of unused lights, etc.) the overall and cumulative impact would be greatly beneficial.</p>
<p>Also, regardless of the tree-core base material of the book, what about the energy expended to produce the final product?  Electricity for the grinders, presses, driers and such, then the fuel used to transport them not only from the mill to the printer, but then from there on to the consumer&#8230; Who then is likely to just chuck it into the recycle bin.  Can you honestly not see the inefficiency in this?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d personally rather see the tree core mulched for agricultural use.</p>
<p>Reducing the reliance on another unnecessary and inefficient resource is just one step along the path most know to be right and necessary.  The fact that you don&#8217;t see it that way serves to illustrate not only the sort of thinking that got us into this mess, but what sorts of challenges we face in getting out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeri Burton</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-543674</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeri Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the phone book companies refuse to do what you ask.  Recently, our business was delivered three phone books.  The owner asked them to take two back.  They made him sign a waiver saying he didn't want the extras.  3 days later the extras were delivered again by UPS.  Not only does this waste phone books, trees, water and numerous other resources, they wasted our time and the fuel and money it took to deliver them against our will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the phone book companies refuse to do what you ask.  Recently, our business was delivered three phone books.  The owner asked them to take two back.  They made him sign a waiver saying he didn&#8217;t want the extras.  3 days later the extras were delivered again by UPS.  Not only does this waste phone books, trees, water and numerous other resources, they wasted our time and the fuel and money it took to deliver them against our will.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Lee</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-543609</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 04:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for an important and helpful post. I've been searching for info about who the heck I could contact to stop getting phone books for months now, so I was thrilled to see this in my RSS reader.

I felt compelled to take a moment to say thanks since the above commenter felt such hostility toward your extremely helpful information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for an important and helpful post. I&#8217;ve been searching for info about who the heck I could contact to stop getting phone books for months now, so I was thrilled to see this in my RSS reader.</p>
<p>I felt compelled to take a moment to say thanks since the above commenter felt such hostility toward your extremely helpful information.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-543602</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Olivia,

I agree with you 100%.

I have blogged about this issue before because it irritates the heck out of me that I get 30 pounds of unwanted phone books per year, and immediately I got several responses like the one you got above from people that I know did not read my blog. When haters all of a sudden found my little no-name blog that only family reads, well, it seemed kinda fishy to me, so we did some online research on the commenters. One of them ended up being associated with Yellow Pages (funny that he didn't leave his web address that would have totally given it away without any research!) and some of the others had made copy and paste comments on other blogs against phone book deliveries. I think there is a few people that work for the phone book companies or are affiliated with them somehow that search out blog posts like this because they all say the same general thing in their comments, "they don't cut down trees, billion dollar industry, not everyone has the internet, recycled ink, small business, blah, blah, blah."  When in actuality the bloggers' main point usually is to MAKE THE DELIVERIES OPTIONAL and OPT IN rather than having to OPT OUT. There is big money in these old behemoths and they are going to claw at gathering advertisers with everything they've got. That said, I cannot think of anyone I know under the age of 35 that uses them. 

I have already signed that petition and called the companies to stop deliveries. They didn't stop the deliveries after my initial calls, but several complaints and talks with supervisors later, I think they finally have. I have even taken it to my environmental board for my city here to see what could be done. If you hear of any U.S. legislation passed to go to an opt-in program, please blog it because I would love to see our city follow!

Sorry for my rant; this subject is important to me. I just wanted to let you know that you will probably have some advocates for the companies write their little spiels about "how phone books really aren't bad for the environment" but many of them have their own agendas. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Olivia,</p>
<p>I agree with you 100%.</p>
<p>I have blogged about this issue before because it irritates the heck out of me that I get 30 pounds of unwanted phone books per year, and immediately I got several responses like the one you got above from people that I know did not read my blog. When haters all of a sudden found my little no-name blog that only family reads, well, it seemed kinda fishy to me, so we did some online research on the commenters. One of them ended up being associated with Yellow Pages (funny that he didn&#8217;t leave his web address that would have totally given it away without any research!) and some of the others had made copy and paste comments on other blogs against phone book deliveries. I think there is a few people that work for the phone book companies or are affiliated with them somehow that search out blog posts like this because they all say the same general thing in their comments, &#8220;they don&#8217;t cut down trees, billion dollar industry, not everyone has the internet, recycled ink, small business, blah, blah, blah.&#8221;  When in actuality the bloggers&#8217; main point usually is to MAKE THE DELIVERIES OPTIONAL and OPT IN rather than having to OPT OUT. There is big money in these old behemoths and they are going to claw at gathering advertisers with everything they&#8217;ve got. That said, I cannot think of anyone I know under the age of 35 that uses them. </p>
<p>I have already signed that petition and called the companies to stop deliveries. They didn&#8217;t stop the deliveries after my initial calls, but several complaints and talks with supervisors later, I think they finally have. I have even taken it to my environmental board for my city here to see what could be done. If you hear of any U.S. legislation passed to go to an opt-in program, please blog it because I would love to see our city follow!</p>
<p>Sorry for my rant; this subject is important to me. I just wanted to let you know that you will probably have some advocates for the companies write their little spiels about &#8220;how phone books really aren&#8217;t bad for the environment&#8221; but many of them have their own agendas. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim McMahon</title>
		<link>http://eco-chick.com/2008/05/02/stop-incessant-phone-book-deliveries/#comment-543596</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Olivia,

Not one tree is cut down to produce a Yellow Pages directory.  The paper is made from what remains after the core of the tree is used for lumber - maybe the infrastructure of YOUR house.  The paper is recyclable, heck even the ink used is recyclable.  I'm tired of all of the bashing of an industry that creates opportunites for American business to flourish. Not everyone has a high speed internet connection to pull up a Google search for pizza and get 150,000 hits.  If you're so concerned about our environment, why don't you stop driving, flying in airplanes, using fossil fuels to heat and cool your home and crawl into a mud hut somewhere to subsist.  And don't start any fires out there either.  God forbid you would use precious wood from trees to do something as unnecessary as eating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Olivia,</p>
<p>Not one tree is cut down to produce a Yellow Pages directory.  The paper is made from what remains after the core of the tree is used for lumber - maybe the infrastructure of YOUR house.  The paper is recyclable, heck even the ink used is recyclable.  I&#8217;m tired of all of the bashing of an industry that creates opportunites for American business to flourish. Not everyone has a high speed internet connection to pull up a Google search for pizza and get 150,000 hits.  If you&#8217;re so concerned about our environment, why don&#8217;t you stop driving, flying in airplanes, using fossil fuels to heat and cool your home and crawl into a mud hut somewhere to subsist.  And don&#8217;t start any fires out there either.  God forbid you would use precious wood from trees to do something as unnecessary as eating.</p>
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